What did you expect?

re glass half full/empty: It's true that nothing new was ever created by way of a negative (i.e. in the sense of knee-jerk polar opposite response) reaction to a a given situation. (Because it remains mired in the same dynamic.) I think there is a qualitative difference between that type of reaction and say, a (potentially) similar action, but one that arises from simply accepting that reality but simultaneously creating a new intention to change it. Cuts down on the meds and makes it easier to separate the wheat from the chaff and open up new fields of vision.

re that ceo who probably isn't a zen monk living on thin air: Although I think it is in some situations possible to know a person's intentions, ultimately I've decided it isn't worth going on about. What counts is their actions. Those we can know for sure. So is that ceo a rotten sob out to make money, p** upstream and assuming some scientist is bound to find a solution later, or just someone who can 'perceive but not see'? or a relativist?maybe the ceo thinks scientists will find a solution down the road (and we'll be lucky the politicians (those free independent thinkers!) will implement it) in the meantime s/he's a valuable citizen providing employment ..... the drug companies think a few deaths in their drug tests should be no obstacle to the "greater good" ..... Maybe the world would cease to turn with someone of my nature, but I say 'first do no harm'. I'll just have to accept that that ceo and a slew of other money makers don't share my opinion. A bitter pill to swallow.

re denial: sadly a long-term component of humanity. "know thyself" has long been an admonition and yet who does? It is so much easier to live in reaction to what is established than to find a new path among it.

I think your pattern tribute idea is a good one or anything else that raises awareness.

eli@ wrote:

Hey Daise,

What I honestly don't get is, and I'm being sincere here despite my default of sarcasm, the ceo of the manuf...that guy eats food, right? His kids prob eat food. How do we end up in such denial about the outcomes that something as basic as. Hey, I like and maybe even need food, so just in case this is right, and despite pressures to the contrary, let's stop making it.

Like the ideal behind your pattern idea! And as someone who went to the dark place last night, well, it's dark in there.
Maybe you/we could do a series of patterns that are tributes to the people that do. Norma Rae, Erin Brockovich, etc. Might be a less bleak and stressful lens to look through. Wish I defaulted to that more often. Half full, and all that. Same assessment of the contents of the glass, but less likely to throw said glass at someone's head... Or have to take meds for high blood pressure. :)

Hey Daise,

What I honestly don't get is, and I'm being sincere here despite my default of sarcasm, the ceo of the manuf...that guy eats food, right? His kids prob eat food. How do we end up in such denial about the outcomes that something as basic as. Hey, I like and maybe even need food, so just in case this is right, and despite pressures to the contrary, let's stop making it.

Like the ideal behind your pattern idea! And as someone who went to the dark place last night, well, it's dark in there.
Maybe you/we could do a series of patterns that are tributes to the people that do. Norma Rae, Erin Brockovich, etc. Might be a less bleak and stressful lens to look through. Wish I defaulted to that more often. Half full, and all that. Same assessment of the contents of the glass, but less likely to throw said glass at someone's head... Or have to take meds for high blood pressure. :)

At least. Hopefully. It's always good to hope. But will 'they' do anything about it? What did they expect anyway? From your article links:

A spokesperson from Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said the new research did not change the government's position. "The UK has a robust system for assessing risks from pesticides and all the evidence shows neonicotinoids do not pose an unacceptable risk to honeybees when products are used correctly."

A spokesman for Syngenta said: "Although we take good research very seriously, over the last four years, independent authorities in France have closely monitored the use of Cruiser – the product containing thiamethoxam – on more than 1.9m hectares. When properly used no cases of bee mortality have been recorded."

willful blindness.

I wanted to post a George Carlin video on humans/capitalism/humans relative to animals/human life vs life of the universe and the relative wisdoms thereof, but my computer has memory overload from days without a re-boot, so that will have to wait till later.

Great pattern title, eli@. Recently I've been wanting to make a pattern called 'why can't people be decent?'. Especially for those with any type of power. The pendant would be 'Why can't people have courage to stand up against what's not decent?' Especially for those without power. That's about the crux of it. Luckily for peace at CL those titles are too long to fit on a title header box. :)

re "dark and twisted". imo, it is not 'dark and twisted' to realise the existence of this undeniable part of reality. It is realistic. I think one of the worst disservices to humankind are the films etc where good always overcomes evil. It doesn't. But to know this and still maintain one's own personal integrity within one's own area of responsibility, contributing to some measure of well-being on this planet by nonetheless acting decently and ethically, that for me, is what it is about. Whether that is ultimately enough, will depend on how many people, and where, also adopt that stance.

ok. off my soapbox.

praxicalidocious wrote:

They have at least identified the pesticide that was responsible. Oh, we pesky humans... Lovely series, btw. :)

The articles were so interesting. Thank you!

praxicalidocious wrote:

They have at least identified the pesticide that was responsible. Oh, we pesky humans... Lovely series, btw. :)

Yeah
Thx!

Getting dark and twisted. Might be time for bed. You know, before you see the real me
Lol

Really? Last I heard they thought a virus and or genetic issue with the Australian ones that they shipped world wide. That is wonderful. Do you happen to remember where you saw that? If its chemical, we can stop using it. Maybe the us will ban it 20or so years after you guys, if the world doesn't end Dec 21st that is.
:)


praxicalidocious wrote:

They have at least identified the pesticide that was responsible. Oh, we pesky humans... Lovely series, btw. :)

They have at least identified the pesticide that was responsible. Oh, we pesky humans... Lovely series, btw. :)