Our New Rights Management System... All the Colors Belong to You!

Our New Rights Management System... All the Colors Belong to You!


When I first built COLOURlovers as a weekend project I had no idea it would become this amazing community. At the time, I threw together a terms of use and privacy policy modified from some of the big sites on the web... and the language used about who owned the content you uploaded here was WAY too aggressive. Basically, it said we "owned" anything you uploaded. It may have said that in small print somewhere, but that's never how we thought about or treated your creations.

Recently we took the time and the budget to update the terms to appropriate language clearly stating that you own everything you create here... but that you give us a commercial license to also use your content (without this we couldn't run the site or showcase your work in things like the Color Inspirations book).

BUT... Updating the terms weren't enough, as we want to fully hand over control of your content to you. Today we're launching two new features that hand the rest of the control of content here at COLOURlovers to you, our awesome and creative members.

Rights Management for all COLOURlovers Content

Can I use this pattern as the background for my blog? Is it free to use this? I don't understand the license you provide for the content on COLOURlovers... We get questions like this all the time. And although we've had a Creative Commons license on the bottom of every page... It hasn't been very clear what people can or can't do with the content shared on COLOURlovers.

License Display Area
So we've added a new section in the right column of each creation page to clearly show the license for that content. There are icons and bullet-points to explain what is allowed with each specific license, as well as a link to the Creative Commons site to learn more about the license terms.

Changing Your Content Licenses
To change the license for a specific color/palette/pattern/etc. you can click the "Edit" link above the license box in the right column. A window will open and allow you to change the license for that specific creation.

Default License Settings
The default license for all content on COLOURlovers is a By Attribution, Non-Commercial, Share Alike license. (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0)

You can change your default license for all future creations in your account settings area (Set Default License). You can also update the license for all your existing content on this page. There is a checkbox at the bottom of the form to "Change All Existing" which will do a big bulk update for all your creations... ie, would you like to allow commercial usage of all of your existing content? You can do that here.

What Each License Means

There are a few different ways you can specify what people can and can't do with the content you share here on COLOURlovers.

All Rights Reserved
Nobody can use your creation without first getting your permission. This is the most protective license option. Ie, Selecting this license on a pattern template you've designed means that nobody else can color the template in. The license area for a creation with this license will link people to a page to send you a love-note to ask for permission to use the content.

Creative Commons
The Creative Commons is a non-profit that aims to "give everyone from individual creators to large companies and institutions a simple, standardized way to keep their copyright while allowing certain uses of their work — a “some rights reserved” approach to copyright — which makes their creative, educational, and scientific content instantly more compatible with the full potential of the internet."

All creative commons license options include "By Attribution"... meaning people can use it as long as they credit you for the original creation.

Additional options under the CC license are:

Allow commercial use.
Selecting this license option will allow other people to use your creation in work that they sell or market commercial services with. It could be an Etsy seller using a pattern as part of a gift wrap paper package they sell, or a real estate agent using your pattern as the background of their website.

Allow derivative works to be created.
Selecting this license will allow users to remix & modify your original creation. For example, if you have created a pattern template that you would like others to be able to color in... it needs to be licensed with a derivative license.

Derivative works must be shared with the same license you’ve selected.
Selecting this option will require all derivative works to be shared with the same license as the original creation. If this option is set for a pattern template, there is no option to change the license terms of colored-in patterns. They must retain the original pattern template license.

License for Colors & Palettes

It's easier to understand these licenses in the context of pattern templates, but it's a little trickier when talking about named colors & palettes.

Colors
Technically you can't own the rights to a color (despite some large corporations trying to copyright their specific branding colors). All 16 million colors already exist, we're just allowing you all to come up with clever names to associate with those colors. For now, all color names on COLOURlovers will continue to have our default (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) license.

Palettes
You also can't technically own the rights to the usage of certain colors together... ie, if you make a palette with Red, White & Blue... you can't prevent the US from printing more flags. What you can own the rights to is the combination of the colors in a specific order, and or the amount of colors presented as a 5 color palette like the way we do here on COLOURlovers. Ie, if you select an All Rights Reserved license for your palette: Somebody else can't present your palette anywhere else the way it is presented here on COLOURlovers. Even with an All Rights Reserved license though, they could still use that color combination to draw an illustration or design a logo.

We'll be adding a section to the site to explain the licenses better moving forward, so if you have any questions or think we should better explain something, please let us know.

Deleting Creations from COLOURlovers

If you really own all your creations, then you should be able to remove them from COLOURlovers too... and now you can. There is a new OPTIONS button in the About header for all creations. You're able to Edit & Delete your creations from here.

It's rare, but we know that sometimes people want to remove something they've shared on COLOURlovers... a palette they no longer love, a template they messed up on, etc. You're now able to delete all your creations, but the way we handle how things are deleted is a little different depending on what's being deleted. Here's a little more about what happens when you delete your different kinds of creations:

Colors. When you delete a color it will remove the color from your creations list, it will clear out the name, description, loves, faves, comments and all other associated information. The color will now be available for another member to name and list as one of their creations. A deleted color will still show in any palette or pattern, but will no longer have a name and will simply display the HEX value.

Palettes. When you delete a palette it will remove the palette from your creations list, it will clear out the name, description, loves, faves, comments and all other associated information.

Patterns. When you delete a pattern it will remove the pattern from your creations list, it will clear out the name, description, loves, faves, comments and all other associated information.

Templates. When you delete a pattern template it will remove the template from your creations list, it will clear out the name, description, loves, faves, comments and all other associated information. Any patterns colored in by other members will still exist on the site even after you delete the template, but no new version will be allowed to be created with the template.

*Gone But Never Forgotten*
Deleted content might still show up in search results in COLOURlovers for a brief time until our database runs it's regular updates to clear it out. Badges for your deleted creations will still exist, but the badge will be updated to show that the content has been removed, and the page for the creation will show that the creation has gone missing.


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Thanks for the update Darius and thank you too for continuing to respect and consider us, our work, and for clearly placing the responsibility of ownership into the hands of users. So that we better understand all of the scenarios that relate to the Rights Management License Box, I'd like to suggest the following scenario to discuss it in more detail.

Template User #1
A_Love_Story
Credit must be given to Any Palacios.
Commercial use is not allowed.
Derivative works are allowed, but must be shared with this license.

Palette User #2
My_pet_elephant
Credit must be given to gibbygirl.
Commercial use is not allowed.
Derivative works are allowed, but must be shared with this license.

Pattern User #3
New_Rights_Mgmt_Ex:1
Credit must be given to Michael Edgerley.
Commercial use is not allowed.
Derivative works are allowed, but must be shared with this license.

Question
In the case of credit assigned to User #3 for the Pattern, should the other users whose work (for Template and Palette) be credited in the License Box for the Pattern? In other words, why is it the Pattern License doesn't read:

New_Rights_Mgmt_Ex:1
Pattern Credit must be given to Michael Edgerley
Palette Credit must be given to gibbygirl.
Template Credit must be given to Any Palacios.
Commercial use is not allowed.
Derivative works are allowed, but must be shared with this license.

My next question:
Would the results be similarly indicated in cases where the Template and/or Palette User(s) employ "All Rights Reserved" for their involvement in the Pattern design?

As you said, and we understand, Templates are at the heart of the new License Management update. However, users are concerned that the credit they deserve for a template design are being lost in the outcome of pattern that makes no mention of their template within the License Box.

Is there a flow chart of all the scenarios that might make all of this clear?
First of all, I would like to show my appreciation to Darius for taking our comments and rights into consideration.
I totally agree with Michael's opinion about giving credits to all of the three different desginers involved in the final pattern.It would be fair if CL system bestows credit to all template desginers when someone else colours their templates.
Thanks to Michael to open this discution and CL for letting us know about the new rules.
I fully endorse the views put forth by Michel and Any-A person,only,colouring a pattern. should not be given the full credit as the efforts put forth by the original creator goes abegging-Pl throw mor light on this
Let's add to Michael's example on the topic of photos. At my request, jeremycole made a template from a photograph I took (also my avatar) and I love the result. The photo is mine, the template is his and American Women colored it (many times as did others). Creative input came from each of us.
I am curious to know more about how photos owned by CLers figure into this discussion.
Hello_Ketisse!Sweet_Delight
hello. without in any way representing ColourLovers or any legal interest, it is my opinion that any photos posted onto a website are under the control of that website, but enter into the public domain, and you voluntarily relinquish any rights by posting to that site. forgive me for not thanking you for such a beautiful photo.
Thank you. I am sure many opinions will be posted here and most will be diverse and dissenting.
However, users are concerned that the credit they deserve for a template design are being lost in the outcome of pattern that makes no mention of their template within the License Box.

I think we shouldn't mix: Credit and license isn't the same thing.

I think I started adding the template badge in the descriptions of the patterns I make because I feel the template creator deserves more "space", attention - credit - and I see many do the same.
Hence I don't think it's crazy at all that the palette AND the template badge be automatically added.
Would this be difficult to do?

As for the license: From my experience, license isn't usually a thing that jumps out but something you need to dig to get. Professionals I know who are used to working with license know they need to dig to get the details (generally you only see the ©) - so I think the actual link to the template is kinda normal.

But adding the template badge would give more existence to the template creator = credit is clear, easy to see
(This reminds me : someone once sent me a note asking me why my name is under his patterns. He seemed very annoyed - said he's here for the fun+please remove your name! By the time I saw the note and wanted to answer - he had already closed his account! )


ketisse wrote:
Let's add to Michael's example on the topic of photos.

Yeah - same here. a photo is a photo. Photocopa or pattern. Same thing.
Well done Darius! thank you.
Is this rolling out gradually? I ask because the word Edit does not appear for me where the example says it should. It just says Pattern License with white space to the right. Am I missing something obvious?
ycc2106 wrote:
oh so they're not supposed to be there!
Not physically in a row - I had like 3 on 1-2 'pages' - but I clicked on them, nearly in a row ^^'
Thanks!

COLOURlover wrote:
@ycc2106, where would you find "a lot of these in a row?"

They shouldn't be showing up in the pattern coloring tool... but sometimes might still show briefly as we update the cache for the database.
ive had several in a physical row just now the first row of second page all told me not available
Seems that Edit only appears on patterns where you are also the template creator.

ScienceFair wrote:
Is this rolling out gradually? I ask because the word Edit does not appear for me where the example says it should. It just says Pattern License with white space to the right. Am I missing something obvious?



Already said this but maybe useful to know:
Can not edit old patterns which the template are now set to ARR - it will be fixed says our dev
=)
Team
ScienceFair wrote:
Is this rolling out gradually? I ask because the word Edit does not appear for me where the example says it should. It just says Pattern License with white space to the right. Am I missing something obvious?

Can you reply with a link to the pattern?
Me too several, on several pages.

Just a thought - if these ARR patterns are always going to show up:
What's annoying is the popups - you need to click OK to close it - but if the msg was on the pattern (like a watermark) we could see the pattern + it wouldn't be as annoying.
=)
iluvhim637 wrote:
ive had several in a physical row just now the first row of second page all told me not available
Wasn't sure how many would fall under ARR, but they do pop-up quite a bit.
A watermark? Good idea, something like our sponsor heart maybe.
ycc2106 wrote:
Me too several, on several pages.

Just a thought - if these ARR patterns are always going to show up:
What's annoying is the popups - you need to click OK to close it - but if the msg was on the pattern (like a watermark) we could see the pattern + it wouldn't be as annoying.
=)
iluvhim637 wrote:
ive had several in a physical row just now the first row of second page all told me not available
ycc2106 wrote:
Seems that Edit only appears on patterns where you are also the template creator.



ScienceFair wrote:
Is this rolling out gradually? I ask because the word Edit does not appear for me where the example says it should. It just says Pattern License with white space to the right. Am I missing something obvious?



Already said this but maybe useful to know:
Can not edit old patterns which the template are now set to ARR - it will be fixed says our dev
=)


Ah. Gotcha. Since I'm not a pattern creator I'll never get the edit option.
PureForm wrote:
ScienceFair wrote:
Is this rolling out gradually? I ask because the word Edit does not appear for me where the example says it should. It just says Pattern License with white space to the right. Am I missing something obvious?

Can you reply with a link to the pattern?


For example: http://www.colourlovers.com/pattern/1773229/innuendo
As you can see, there's no Edit button to the right of the phrase Pattern License as depicted in the example. ycc explained that template creators have that.
Team
@ScienceFair

In the template example you link to... That template has a license that requires any derivatives of it must have the same license... hence why you can't change it.
Question? Why does it not give credit to the template creator too? =( I could see maybe not making people credit the ones who named all the colors in a palette, but why not at least *also* credit/license the one who made the pattern template as well as the one who colored it, and perhaps the one who made the palette used if that is different? I think it really should credit the template maker... =) It would only be doing as the license on the pattern template says after all... "Credit must be given" but it isn't.
Team
@Tiandu
This is something we're considering adding to the license credit requirements.

FYI. Tempates are credited to the creator on their page with the "Original Template By" line in the about area.
Right, but for me personally, seeing "credit must be given to [person that colored the template]" and not *also* the creator of the template in the license statement stings a little... People are going to give more weight to that legal looking statement than the little "oh, and this person made the template that you are admiring colored here", you know?

Edit: I reckon the same could go for a palette too, for all that. The colors themselves, I could see maybe not crediting in the license, there are so many of them, and they take less time and effort to make than a palette or pattern template.
Edit 2: Also, I took so long coming here because I was taking the time to find the words to express what I feel... This is important to me, and I daresay a lot of us.


COLOURlover wrote:
@Tiandu
This is something we're considering adding to the license credit requirements.

FYI. Tempates are credited to the creator on their page with the "Original Template By" line in the about area.
Team
No stings intended.

We will probably be adding license credits to the template creators on colored templates.
Thank you for hearing us. =) I wonder if you could use a script that checks to see who created the template and adds that in the license if it is different from the one who colored it, as well as who created the palette if that is also different? If they are all the same person it names just the one? More efficient in the long run, less redundancy? I think the license statement would be way too long if the ones that named the colors are also put in, and I think if you did a poll many would relent on the idea of crediting the ones who named a color as much as those who made a palette, colored a pattern, or made a template. =)
COLOURlover wrote:
No stings intended.

We will probably be adding license credits to the template creators on colored templates.
Team
Added credit to template creator too! :)
WOW!!!!.....MEGA-THANK YOU DARIUS...I never expected this would be so fast!!!!
I really appreciate all efforts CL stuff is making to improve this awesome site.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
Thanks for the Clarity!!!!

Bought my Seamless!

xoxoxox
The natives are lovers! =P Cheers for walking us through Bubs & Co!

ycc2106 wrote: Hence I don't think it's crazy at all that the palette AND the template badge be automatically added. Would this be difficult to do?

It's worth considering. I've learned to add them too. Having them there reduces the workflow especially when giving thanks to people. A good site design topic even if outside New Rights Mgmt.
Can we flag offensive content please?
Thats nice
Wow !
This is really amazing and thank you Darius and everyone who works on this site. I was wondering if there is an easy way to search by license, to see which patterns are available to use commercially? I run a very small event planning business, and I love having access to inexpensive patterns for my business blog, which is a commercial use. Lately I've just been searching and posting "Commercial Use OK" patterns to a community on here called "Free to Use" but manually going through all the patterns I want is time-consuming. Is there a way to add licensing to search? Thank you for everything you do!

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