Nothing Ventured

Ah huege, and you say you're not sophisticated! "fabric subtlely draping" You'll have the ladies swooning!
huege wrote:

I don't like seeing fabrics or patterns stretched. It's best if the fabric just subtlety drapes over the treasures underneath, regardless of the amount of treasure underneath. Treasure is treasure...any amount is worth searching for :)
daisychain wrote:

Well, yes, huege! But what body do you visualise in the camisole? Doesn't that make a difference? Not all patterns stretch well over an ample breast, you know ....

Gee whillikers, huege! All these years I've been wasting my time, spelling out the WHOLE saying. Thanks for alerting me to the trend. So that's why my conversation partners start yawning before I've finished talking. Good, got that settled. NOW I'm in the know. Thanks, huege!
huege wrote:

Have you ever noticed that people seldom use full sayings anymore in casual conversation? I could imagine my dad In the 1950's saying to a friend in a Wally Cleaver sort of way "nothing ventured, nothing gained." As if it were a nugget of knowledge he coined himself. Today talking with a buddy, I'd just say "nothing ventured." We've both heard the full saying enough that it isn't needed anymore, and actually sounds kind of silly if you do say the whole thing.

And your aunt rocks! I avoid buying clothes that aren't machine washable.

Maybe people just don't like red? The washable pattern is more defined...more silhouettey...maybe that's more desirable?
daisychain wrote:

Oh, I'm not arguing with your title - I see all that. Nonetheless, association is free if not tied down fast to the pattern. How about this: "Machine Washability" is totally fantastic! No messing with hand washing. My aunt wouldn't ever buy anything if it wasn't machine washable. So this title - seen like this - is a Totally Good Thing. Now to "Nothing Ventured": sure it implies the latter half of the saying. But does it have to? It could be a statement. The reds and other palette colours in the pattern are rather muted. Does that imply "stepping out of one's comfort zone"? As you yourself said, the palette you used is your house. Again, not making any definitive statements here, just playing around with associative thoughts and pondering the workings of the mind (and loves!) - and enjoying a nice exchange with you, huege!

I don't like seeing fabrics or patterns stretched. It's best if the fabric just subtlety drapes over the treasures underneath, regardless of the amount of treasure underneath. Treasure is treasure...any amount is worth searching for :)
daisychain wrote:

Well, yes, huege! But what body do you visualise in the camisole? Doesn't that make a difference? Not all patterns stretch well over an ample breast, you know ....

Have you ever noticed that people seldom use full sayings anymore in casual conversation? I could imagine my dad In the 1950's saying to a friend in a Wally Cleaver sort of way "nothing ventured, nothing gained." As if it were a nugget of knowledge he coined himself. Today talking with a buddy, I'd just say "nothing ventured." We've both heard the full saying enough that it isn't needed anymore, and actually sounds kind of silly if you do say the whole thing.

And your aunt rocks! I avoid buying clothes that aren't machine washable.

Maybe people just don't like red? The washable pattern is more defined...more silhouettey...maybe that's more desirable?
daisychain wrote:

Oh, I'm not arguing with your title - I see all that. Nonetheless, association is free if not tied down fast to the pattern. How about this: "Machine Washability" is totally fantastic! No messing with hand washing. My aunt wouldn't ever buy anything if it wasn't machine washable. So this title - seen like this - is a Totally Good Thing. Now to "Nothing Ventured": sure it implies the latter half of the saying. But does it have to? It could be a statement. The reds and other palette colours in the pattern are rather muted. Does that imply "stepping out of one's comfort zone"? As you yourself said, the palette you used is your house. Again, not making any definitive statements here, just playing around with associative thoughts and pondering the workings of the mind (and loves!) - and enjoying a nice exchange with you, huege!

Well, yes, huege! But what body do you visualise in the camisole? Doesn't that make a difference? Not all patterns stretch well over an ample breast, you know ....

huege wrote:

I'm not that sophisticated, I usually just picture the patterns on a camisole :)
daisychain wrote:

Also, there's another aspect I notice with myself when loving or not, namely: What do I love it for? Looking at it as a screensaver? Wallpapering my bedroom? Designing an in-restaurant? Looking at it as though in an art gallery? Designing my carpet? Tiling my bathroom? Making jewellery? My ability to visualise any given pattern as working well in a certain situation influences my "love". And I might love a pattern for one of those things but not the other .....

Oh, I'm not arguing with your title - I see all that. Nonetheless, association is free if not tied down fast to the pattern. How about this: "Machine Washability" is totally fantastic! No messing with hand washing. My aunt wouldn't ever buy anything if it wasn't machine washable. So this title - seen like this - is a Totally Good Thing. Now to "Nothing Ventured": sure it implies the latter half of the saying. But does it have to? It could be a statement. The reds and other palette colours in the pattern are rather muted. Does that imply "stepping out of one's comfort zone"? As you yourself said, the palette you used is your house. Again, not making any definitive statements here, just playing around with associative thoughts and pondering the workings of the mind (and loves!) - and enjoying a nice exchange with you, huege!

P.S. re the titles: If the pattern is obvious and plain out beautiful, the title doesn't matter so much. But some titles add immensely, and can even make or break a "love" for me - see my comment on Pauline Jones' 1000 Paint Cans.

And then, one can produce absolutely perfect and beautiful work like Any, and you could call it absolutely anything or nothing, stand on your head, eat a peanut butter sandwich - it wouldn't make a wit of difference! Class stands out and above!!!
huege wrote:

I don't see the titles as having too much impact either way. To me "Nothing Ventured" is the more positive of the two titles. Nothing ventured, nothing gained is a saying intended to inspire one into action...do nothing and you get nothing. While the full saying isn't in the title, it is implied. Whereas "Machine Washability" implies the humdrumness of doing laundry. But then again, maybe that's what people like....comfort. "Venturing" implies stepping out of one's comfort zone, facing the unknown. Doing laundry means humdrumness, comfort, home, clean sheets. Whatever the reason they are loved differently, I'm just happy that they are loved :) And I'm just amazed by Any's template.
daisychain wrote:

Beautiful patterns are offered here in such profusion and a click or no click isn't too hard. So it's probably a bit like candy - today I like red, tomorrow I like blue, or heck, pink is my favourite colour, so I only click on pink, or something .... Sometimes a pattern isn't "pretty" for the sake of it, but maybe coloured to tell a story or illustrate the title, or be a more innovative colouring, which may or may not get the consideration it deserves ..... Maybe the title does play a role - "Machine Washability" is a tad catchier than "Nothing Ventured". I think mathematics definitely play a role - the more clicks it gets, the more it circulates, the higher up on the page it appears .... But maybe if you'd called it "Everything Gained"? or "The Red Baron" to begin with ...... But ultimately, who knows? Anyway, I like the red version better than the more popular one. Guess I'm not with the in-crowd, so how would I know? Best ask them. :)

I'm not that sophisticated, I usually just picture the patterns on a camisole :)
daisychain wrote:

Also, there's another aspect I notice with myself when loving or not, namely: What do I love it for? Looking at it as a screensaver? Wallpapering my bedroom? Designing an in-restaurant? Looking at it as though in an art gallery? Designing my carpet? Tiling my bathroom? Making jewellery? My ability to visualise any given pattern as working well in a certain situation influences my "love". And I might love a pattern for one of those things but not the other .....

I don't see the titles as having too much impact either way. To me "Nothing Ventured" is the more positive of the two titles. Nothing ventured, nothing gained is a saying intended to inspire one into action...do nothing and you get nothing. While the full saying isn't in the title, it is implied. Whereas "Machine Washability" implies the humdrumness of doing laundry. But then again, maybe that's what people like....comfort. "Venturing" implies stepping out of one's comfort zone, facing the unknown. Doing laundry means humdrumness, comfort, home, clean sheets. Whatever the reason they are loved differently, I'm just happy that they are loved :) And I'm just amazed by Any's template.
daisychain wrote:

Beautiful patterns are offered here in such profusion and a click or no click isn't too hard. So it's probably a bit like candy - today I like red, tomorrow I like blue, or heck, pink is my favourite colour, so I only click on pink, or something .... Sometimes a pattern isn't "pretty" for the sake of it, but maybe coloured to tell a story or illustrate the title, or be a more innovative colouring, which may or may not get the consideration it deserves ..... Maybe the title does play a role - "Machine Washability" is a tad catchier than "Nothing Ventured". I think mathematics definitely play a role - the more clicks it gets, the more it circulates, the higher up on the page it appears .... But maybe if you'd called it "Everything Gained"? or "The Red Baron" to begin with ...... But ultimately, who knows? Anyway, I like the red version better than the more popular one. Guess I'm not with the in-crowd, so how would I know? Best ask them. :)

Also, there's another aspect I notice with myself when loving or not, namely: What do I love it for? Looking at it as a screensaver? Wallpapering my bedroom? Designing an in-restaurant? Looking at it as though in an art gallery? Designing my carpet? Tiling my bathroom? Making jewellery? My ability to visualise any given pattern as working well in a certain situation influences my "love". And I might love a pattern for one of those things but not the other .....

Beautiful patterns are offered here in such profusion and a click or no click isn't too hard. So it's probably a bit like candy - today I like red, tomorrow I like blue, or heck, pink is my favourite colour, so I only click on pink, or something .... Sometimes a pattern isn't "pretty" for the sake of it, but maybe coloured to tell a story or illustrate the title, or be a more innovative colouring, which may or may not get the consideration it deserves ..... Maybe the title does play a role - "Machine Washability" is a tad catchier than "Nothing Ventured". I think mathematics definitely play a role - the more clicks it gets, the more it circulates, the higher up on the page it appears .... But maybe if you'd called it "Everything Gained"? or "The Red Baron" to begin with ...... But ultimately, who knows? Anyway, I like the red version better than the more popular one. Guess I'm not with the in-crowd, so how would I know? Best ask them. :)